The 3D goggles situation on Mac OS X has not received the attention that it deserves from me personally, because I am adept and cross-eyed stereo graphics, and because I could add that feature to PyMOL, if I really needed it. Nonetheless, there are plenty of protein crystallographers who will never take the Macintosh platform seriously until it has full 3d capabilities, including 3D goggles. I have mentioned this to Warren Delano and to my contact at Apple, but it was some time ago. I'll be forwarding this message to them, and to Stereographics as well. Warren has PyMOL stereo graphics working under Windows, and I think that the Crystal Eyes vendor would sell many more units, if they brought their product to OSX Unix. Moreover, if they would open source their driver, assist Warren with with the PyMOL implementation, and produce an X11 version for Darwin, I would be happy to boost their product from the GNU-Darwin website. I think that would help their sales on the Apple platform considerably. http://www.gnu-darwin.org/gdc/ Apple would also benefit from this development, because these goggles have applications in many different markets from design to immersive systems. http://www.stereographics.com/html/body_crystaleyes_apps.html http://www.stereographics.com/html/imm-sys.htm If 3D goggles came to the Apple platform, then it would be the the platform of choice for such applications IMHO. Unfortunately, it is not at this time. Hopefully, this message will get things moving. Interested parties like yourself should definitely contact the major players to request this feature. Thank you for your interest in GNU-Darwin, PyMOL and Apple computers. Regards, Michael L. Love MacCHESS Cornell University http://www.gnu-darwin.org/ On 31 Dec, Campbell, Malcolm wrote: > Michael, > I teach biology at Davidson College in NC and want to develop the capacity > for my students to see structures in 3D using Crystal Eyes. I have been > working with Chime scripts for a while but recently saw a real 3D example > with crystal eyes and it hit me like a ton of bricks. I would like to write > a grant to establish a computational room for visualizing proteins and I > want it to be an all-Mac platform running OSX. > > I read the Apple web article and your web pages about the help you have > given to people like me by porting your software to OSX. I have no formal > training in X-ray crysalography etc. So I would like to ask you a question. > Can I use your software with Crystal Eyes to get the molecules to jump off > the screen? As I have begun to look around, it seems that Mac's are not > supported and I don't want to have to use a PC if I can avoid it. I am > looking for a combination of software and hardware that will let my students > see off-the-screen molecules based on .pdb files. > > Any adivice you can give me would be appreciated. > Thanks for your time and consideration, > Malcolm > > ------------------------------------------------------ > A. Malcolm Campbell, Ph.D. > Associate Professor of Biology > Director of the Genome Consortium for Active Teaching > (http://www.bio.davidson.edu/GCAT) > > P. O. Box 7118 (US Mail) > 225 Concord Rd (Shipping) > Davidson, NC 28036 USA > > macampbell@davidson.edu > http://www.bio.davidson.edu/campbell > 704-894-2692 (voice) > 704-894-2512 (fax) -- Visit proclus realm! http://proclus.tripod.com/ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GMU/S d+@ s: a+ C++++ UBULI++++$ P+ L+++(++++) E--- W++ N- !o K- w--- !O M++@ V-- PS+++ PE Y+ PGP-- t+++(+) 5+++ X+ R tv-(--)@ b !DI D- G e++++ h--- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------